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Todd
Solondz
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The cult movie director Todd Solondz had just released his latest
film. Palindromes is a dark and twisty morality fable that's sure
to divide viewers. Jeremiah Kipp of Filmcritic.com has already described
it as: "another hour and 40 minutes of hatred for the world and
everyone in it" but Solondz himself has a more sanguine view of
his work. Using multiple actresses to play a single character, it's
a disturbing, funny and edgy piece of work that tackles themes such
as motherhood, abortion, religion, and, as always in his work, the
worldview of children.
What's your favourite Aviva sequence?
My favourite. I don't know! I don't know! The problem with favourites
is, I wouldn't like to say favourites because I wouldn't want any
actor to feel that they were less of a favourite than another.
Were there any parts of the film that you particularly enjoyed
working on?
I can't say. It's always an unpleasant experience. But I can tell
you this: truly the most moving moment was when all the Sunshine
Singers were performing their songs. These kids came from all walks
of life and they really formed a bond with each other. To see what
pride and joy they took in their performance was such a profound
delight, it was very moving. That said, at the same time, you set
back and you think: "Oh my God, what are they singing?!" But that's
the rub, that's the friction, it's part of the dynamic through which
my films operate.
How do you manage to make subversive, unsettling films like Palindromes?
What keeps you going?
I think you need selective amnesia. You have to forget how horrible
it was last time or you'd never put yourself through it again.
Like a pregnancy?
Yes, you could look at it that way I suppose.
At the press screening most of the audience were silent, but
some laughed nervously, especially at Sharon Wilkins and the Mama
Sunshine scenes. What do you make of that? Does it bother you that
people might misinterpret your vision for the film?
There's all kinds of laughter, and certainly there's a satirical
thrust to the movie, there's a light satirical thrust to the Sunshine
sequence and a harsher one in the Ellen Barkin one. So I don't have
a problem in principle, I think laughter is fun. If I feel that
the laughter comes at the expense of the characters then that becomes
another story, that's problematic.
What are the challenges in using actors who are minors to discuss
themes that are very adult. Do parents withdraw their permission
when they find out what the film is about?
It's been like this with all my movies and I approach everything
in the same way. With the children I call the parents and discuss
at length what I have in mind, I let them see the script, because
I certainly would never want to persuade any child to be in a movie,
they're in it because they want to be and because the parents are
supportive of the endeavour. I don't have any kids but if I did
have a kid and they wanted to act, I'd prefer them to act in one
of my movies than, I don't know, a commercial for The Gap or Banana
Republic or something where they're essentially a sales device for
some consumer goods corporation. To me, that would be the obscenity.
Did you self-censor whilst making this film?
No - I think I've upset enough people as it is! I make the movie
I want to make, I find the right tone in the course of cutting the
film. I suppose censoring would not be the right way to describe
that editing, as far as I'm concerned, it's all about achieving
the right tone.
Do you think queer audiences are more likely to understand Palindromes
than straight?
I'm happy that you're asking this. I don't know if they're more
likely to understand it, I don't know, but I will say this: certainly
from the gay people I've spoken with who have seen the movie, they
respond to it in a very different way. They appreciate or get things
that straight audiences don't seem to. I think that even though
there is no homosexuality in the film, there is one gay character.
It's never really mentioned that he's gay although I think many
people pick up on it, it's the one Sunshine singer whose disability
is that he is gay, which I think enough gay viewers recognise.
I think some of the themes in the film, even though they don't relate
to homosexuality, they are concerned with the homosexual experience.
The issue of childbirth, of being a parent and not being biologically
capable of that, the idea of change and the question of what we
change and do we change, certainly I think are true. I don't know
of any terribly well-documented cases of people changing their sexuality
from gay to straight any more than I know of those who change from
straight to gay. It is something that I don't see that one has much
choice in. It is determined, for better or for worse, you have no
choice but you accept who you are, which some see as a bleak proposition
but I see as a freeing thing.
What's next for you?
I'm afraid I don't really talk about the future. I have something
in mind but I don't want to jinx myself.
Is there anything else you'd like to add?
I'm glad that you asked that question about gay audiences because
I do think that there's a gay audience for this movie - in ways
that are oblique and yet palpable.
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