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What inspired you to write Cherry. Did you have scores to settle?
No scores to settle at all! I was approached by Kathleen Kiirik
Bryson, who was the editor of what was then a soon-to-be-launched
imprint for sex writing by dykes. She had read some zines and odds
and ends that I'd written, and we knew each other because I had
interviewed her about her books for a homo website called www.RainbowNetwork.com.
Anyway, she liked my stuff and said that she was looking for someone
to write a dirty novel. I had written a non-fiction book a few years
previously, but I'd never written a really long story before. Although
my real interest in fiction is more literary (yeah, right!) here
was someone offering me the chance to publish a novel, not only
that but to author the first title in a new imprint. Most new authors
never get that kind of opportunity, they often struggle for years,
getting piles of rejection letters and lots of discouragement. Even
though I would be writing what is generally regarded as trash, and
even though the deadline was scary (three months to produce 80,000
words alongside my full-time very demanding job) and even though
the money was - to put it bluntly - shit, I thought it would be
a terrific experience, so I jumped and I'm glad I did.
You started your writing career as a zinemaker, were they sexual
in content? What motivates you to communicate about dyke sexuality?
Some of my earlier zines had sexual content,
but most do not, they're more about pop culture than cliterature.
The two zines that stick in my mind are Kink and Fuck. Kink
was a free zine, the first I authored by myself. It ran for ten
issues over about two or three years from 1996. It had sex stuff
in it, like dirty stories, little accounts of real life sex, badly
drawn pictures by me, plus other odds and ends. I made it because
I had just got back from a trip to San
Francisco where I had lost my dyke virginity, been beaten black
and blue at a dyke sex party (and loved it), met a load of queer
punks, and really needed some place to address these things. Up
until that point I had quite a straight life (well, relatively,
my boyfriend was then a drag queen)
and I didn't know many dykes. Kink gave me a way of meeting them
cs I'd ask cute girls to write for it, and give it away free at
clubs and gigs. It really helped me break into a scene that is usually
very wary of dykes who have boyfriends. Oh yeah, I should say that
Kink started when there was very little dyke-produced sex stuff
in the UK. I wanted to make it free too, cs most porn is really
expensive. Kink eventually ended because I felt restricted by
the sex theme and wanted to write about other things.
Fuck was a Story Zine. I've just finished that series but for
five years I produced these little one-off fold-out-A3 zines about
various things that caught my eye, for example the Versace murder,
the Millennium Dome, heroin, Scott of the Antarctic, English spa
towns, blah blah. These zines usually have an element of personal
writing in them and Fuck consisted of accounts of real life sexual
experiences I'd had, including getting my face kicked in during
a drugged-up threesome, to teenage fumblings, to very vanilla romantic
sex.
As for what motivates me...I like reading and writing about things
that are forbidden. Sex is mythologised, aggrandised, hidden, cloaked
in taboo and ignorance. I like to make public things that are real
for me - it can be sex, work, love, death, being a bit loony, the
stuff behind the mask of polite appearances - I think it is empowering,
the truth is liberating.
How accurate is the book's depiction of London's lesbian scene?
It's all made up. However, the scene can be a vicious, tawdry, tacky
wonderland. Plus I've met many lesbians in my time who are total
nightmare women, so I based some of the scenarios and characters
on all that.
Were you as sexually gung ho as the main character Ramona when you
entered the dyke scene in England?
Yes! Like Ramona I was totally ready and gagging for it. I'm a lot
calmer now though, more focused on work and domesticity. I should
say that Cherry is not autobiography, some of the sex may be written
because I know about how it feels first-hand, but the book is 100%
fiction.
Is it inevitable in this kind of story that Ramona experiences a
comeuppance of a particularly nasty kind? Is it a necessary part
of the character's development or just moralising?
Cherry is genre fiction, there's nothing deep about it so try
not to read too much into the plot, which I think is basically a
skeletal structure on which to hang the sex. Ramona goes through
a wake-up call type experience because the story has to climax in
some dramatic way, plus it gave me the opportunity to allow her
to be rescued romantically by her best girl Dipper without descending
into bodice-ripping territory. I suppose I wanted to show how the
scene can corrupt people. I'm interested in the way that some dykes
come out and completely reinvent themselves to fit into LaLaLesbian
Land. It makes for very shallow, fucked-up people, and Ramona is
basically a charming misfit badass bitch who nearly becomes a nasty
little A-Dyke.
Did you achieve what you wanted with the sex scenes in the book?
Yeah. Some critics have said that it looks as though I sat down
and decided how the sex would be before building a story around
it. That's almost true and I think it's fair enough in a book like
this. Whilst I'm proud of the high quality of my writing, Cherry
is a sex book, not high art. On the other hand, I get emails from
people around the world who read it and told me how much they love
jerking off over it. Hurrah! Also, in some ways it was gratifying
when the book got seized for obscenity by Canada Customs last year
- if a whole country thinks my book
is disgustingly rude I must be doing something right.
Who are the other writers you admire?
My favourite book of all time is Please Kill Me, Legs McNeill's
brilliant oral history of New York punk. It is hilarious, moving,
though-provoking, inspiring, real, everything you want in a book.
I am also a big fan of two important queer-friendly imprints: Serpent's
Tail/High Risk, which I think has been shamefully discontinued,
and the Semiotext(e) Native Agents series. Look out for these books,
they are edgy, cool and totally fucking fantastic. Otherwise, old
school writers I adore are Tom Wolfe, whose writing changed my life
when I was a teenager; Flannery O'Connor for her crooked view of
the world and Truman Capote for his society bitchiness. New school
writers I love and envy are: Ann Rower, whose autobiographical fiction
is sublime, as are the memoirs of Michelle Tea and her mentor Eileen
Myles (I caught a Sister Spit show in San Francisco in the 90s and
that was also a great influence). I love Gary Indiana and David
Sedaris. Two writers you may not know are Frances Gapper, who is
a very talented, droll, surreal short story writer, and Martin Wong,
who beautiful, hip, understated pieces for Giant Robot, one of
my favouite magazines. I want to add that I LOVE the editorial in
magazines too and read millions of them including The National
Enquirer, Scandinavian Living, Vanity Fair and Jane. Repeat
after me: Trash is good.
Finally, please visit my website, www.CharlotteCooper.net it's my
online zine and I update it with new features every month. Plus
there's loads more information about Cherry and my other books
and zines on it too. I love to make new friends and to talk about
my writing, so e-me today.
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